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Alistair Penbroke's avatar

Good on you for leaving it.

I always thought the name itself was strongly indicative of the character of the movement: a sinister underlying ideology combined with mass stupidity. "The People's Vote"? Which marketing genius came up with that? They couldn't have sounded more North Korean if they'd tried.

It's not a surprise the book doesn't reflect on the ethics of it. The EU project itself survives because its supporters don't look too closely at the ethics of anything related to it.

The pre-vote apathy of Bray and others is surprising, but maybe in hindsight shouldn't be. It's always the newest converts with the greatest zeal. I discovered during the referendum campaigning period that the most swivel-eyed Remainiacs invariably knew nearly nothing about the EU itself and sometimes hadn't even been there. They treated it more like an aesthetic than an actual set of treaties and institutions, and cared much more for what it said about themselves and Britain than the details of the decision itself.

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A noteworthy aspect of the People's Vote in class terms was the high level

of education combined with political naiveté. A central hallmark of professional class people is mutual recognition for each others' professional expertise as a form ultimately of assuring one's own identity. Hence a great deal of respect for doctors and chartering bodies; in the context of the People's Vote this meant authority over entirely unrelated domains was leant to the political one (which is, needless to say, a generalist one) and those involved assumed they were righteous and leaving was "obviously" a bad idea/a mistake per epistocratic standards. This arrogance not only lead to basic campaign messaging mistakes but the lack of persuasion and dialogue was enthroned as a virtue. Leave voters were treated as obviously thick and all messaging and campaigning aimed at persuading elites and insider institutions (with the Supreme Court etc made into the totems of truth). Although he is not a political novice, Raymond Geuss's article in The Point on this demonstrates this fundamental low liberal lack of faith in liberal methods (persuasion and debate) that ends up in my view mirroring that of the populist right, a game low liberals will https://thepointmag.com/politics/a-republic-of-discussion-habermas-at-ninety/

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